Presence of Malice

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  1. Mordechai Y. Scher says:

    good call on this one…

    Well, yes; if this were in Idaho we *would* indeed have a word for it. Where Haaretz is concerned, the very same word applies (often has, in my opinion). Some anitsemites are indeed Jews, as we see at Haaretz. I guess a more correct term today is something like ‘hatred of Judaism’; but in the old days it was all antisemitism.

  2. ralphie says:

    Ha’aretz editorial bias aside, one has hopes that this might be the beginnings of improving the sour relations between the Haredi and the secular.

  3. Menachem says:


    Your critique of Haaretz is on target. I’m wonering how this would be (was?) portrayed in the Chareidi press, which is usually the mirror image of rags like Haaretz.

    Regarding your statement below:

    “So the charedim and secular shared an office, and discovered they could actually get along. And the company is so happy with the work ethic and productivity of the charedim, that it plans to hire dozens more. By all accounts, everyone is happy with how well charedim are doing in skilled labor, including the workers:”

    Imagine if the chareidim themselves took this to heart and realized that they can actually get along with non-chareidim in the work place, the army, sheirut leumi, etc. What a wonderful world it would be!

  4. Yaakov Menken says:


    That’s an undocumented swipe at the “charedi press.” I doubt you could find an article anywhere in the charedi world that, were it printed in Idaho, you would call anti-Semitic. This is only the most recent example of what we find in HaAretz.

    Charedim will not get along in regular units in an army as young unmarrieds, for all sorts of reasons obvious to anyone familiar with the army. This is why the hesder yeshivot have hesder units. Furthermore, you don’t want to replace Torah study with military service.

  5. Harry Maryles says:

    What do you have against Idaho?

  6. sarah says:

    You sure about that? I seem to recall reading an article in the JPost about a year ago about a company that was hiring chareidi women for high tech jobs but paying them well below the going rate. They felt they could get away with it because the women didn’t have many other options.

  7. Steve Brizel says:

    When Haaretz starts writing positive articles about Charedim without any post Zionist and anti Charedi spin , then we will see a different paper. Until then, expect nothing but Shachar Ilan’s so-called “inside pieces” and articles re scandals, etc.

  8. Moshe Friedman says:

    I don’t think you realized how odd this headline really is. Even the paragraph you quoted simply said that some Rabbis discourage women from going to certain workplaces. However, one would assume that the phrase “lured into the sweatshop” was referring to all the high tech workplaces mentioned earlier in the article, and thus makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, even as an insult to Hareidim. It’s simply incoherent.

    As you noticed, the article also has an almost uniformly positive tone, which clashes with the headline.

    If you read Ha’aretz regularly you’ll notice that their English is far from perfect and that they often use words with the wrong connotations. For some reason, this seems to be especially true of the headlines. It’s quite possible that this is just another example of that.

  9. Ori Pomerantz says:

    One of the big problems of many Israeli Chilonim (= non religious) with Charedi society is the self-imposed poverty caused by years of full time Torah study. In the US that would be accepted as an individual/family choice, but in high-tax/high-welfare Israel the costs really are spread to the rest of the country.

    For Ha’aretz to be anything but supportive when Charedim get good, high paying jobs smacks of hypocrisy. I suspect that the journalist who wrote this article would agree with me – the article’s tone is positive. However, the editor who chooses the headlines seems to have a different agenda.

  10. Menachem Petrushka says:

    Speaking of headlines, Haaretz recently ran a story in its web edition on a study of who wastes water in Israel. Far down on the list of culprits was the country’s Mikvahs. But the headline read “Mikvahs and others waste water”. Technically correct, the headline says more about the biases of the paper than the wastage of water.

    Menachem Petrushka

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