It’s the Effort that Counts

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4 Responses

  1. L.Oberstein says:

    This is the first Jonathan Rosenblum article that I put up on the refrigerator. This is a topic that we can actually do something about, helping our children do better in school and in life.
    However, as in Lake Woebegone, All of our children are above average.

  2. joel rich says:

    1. I agree with the study’s conclusions and this was the approach I was raised with and did my best to raise my children with

    2. Having said that, I’ve found that the extension (which I don’t believe the study supports) sometimes articulated is that “if you want it enough, you can become the gadol hador (greatest of the generation)” no matter what native ability HKB”H has given you. Is this a common belief?

    3. I’ve been told that many believe that R’ JB Soloveitchik ZT”L believed that the will could conquer all (which is why he was so hard on his talmidim) until he suffered his year of triple aveilut at which point he realized this wasn’t the case.


  3. Zev says:

    “This is the first Jonathan Rosenblum article that I put up on the refrigerator.”

    That’s a backhanded compliment if I ever saw one.

  4. Ben Aron says:

    In response to Joel Rich, the evidence is conclusive and widely available.
    There are thousands of Bnei Yeshiva who have learnt with great Hasmodo and Mesirus Nefesh for years and, though they all reaped great benefits and some of them achieved great knowledge and competence, this did not make them the Godol Hador which was held in front of their eyes as the attainable goal.
    What “makes” a godol has certain pre-conditions, intellectually and, perhaps, even more, connected with personality (stature), combined with a highly dedicated pursuit of Torah (Hasmodo and E’yun) and Avoda.
    With the utmost trepidation and hesitance I wish to express the thought that the Godol orientated thrust of the Yeshivoth has some far reaching negative effects with regard to the many quite average bachurim who are not able keep up with the demands of the growing number of “boutique” Yeshivos, catering to “Metzuyonim” and promising the highest levels of instruction.

    These problems already show up already at the Yeshivoth Ketanos and Mesivtos and are of major concerns to Mechanchim and parents.
    There have been many imanginative approaches to provide a better suited chinuch for those who failed in the normal Yeshivos. But, in truth, these are attempt to find remedies after the difficulties showed up. It would not be too soon for our leading mechanchim to consult with the Gedolei Hador to find the best solutions to the conflicting demands and challenges facing the Yeshiva chinuch today.

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