The Unconscious and the Unaware

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  1. ASC says:

    Your write: “Can the Gray Lady…actually be slyly intimating that the real divide in the Schiavo case is between ordinary American folk and “social conservative” organizational hacks who, the writer concedes, have “generated” tens of thousands of calls and e-mails in recent days?”

    According to a CBS poll, Americans side with Michael Schiavo, 66 to 27 percent, (nearly identical to the results of an ABC poll.) 82 percent, including 68 percent of white evangelicals, think Congress and the president should not have intervened. 74 percent think the action was done in order to “advance a political agenda.” In general, 73 percent say if a patient is in a coma with no brain activity, a close family member should have the right to tell the doctor to remove the feeding tube and let the patient die. 17 percent say family members should not have this right. Conservatives are somewhat less likely than liberals and moderates to say this, but 62 percent of them still think so. [See full poll at

  2. dilbert says:

    I particularly enjoy your term “proponent of plug-pulling”. you may be interested in the opinion of R. Moshe Sternbuch, Rosh Yeshiva of Rosh Ha’Ayin, who in some cases does not appear to be opposed to mercy-killing of non-Jews. See my post here: I guess you would have to include him in your list of plug-pullers.

  3. Eytan Kobre says:

    Two points in response to your astute comment: 1) Many believe the polls you cite are themselves skewed to produce a pro-plug-pulling result. See, for example, commentator Michelle Malkin ,and pollster Pat Caddell; 2) if the Times wants to cite polls, that’s fine. Instead, it inexplicably resorts to utterly unscientific random surveys of individuals and subtly uses language that personalizes the pro-death camp and depersonalizes the other side. We should be able to agree that that’s underhanded and unfair, whatever our beliefs about the case’s merits.

  4. Eytan Kobre says:

    In response to “dilbert”: 1)I would indeed be interested to ascertain Rav Shternbuch’s position on mercy-killing. Until I do so, I must say I find it difficult to believe that he casts his lot with those who supported the termination of Terri Schiavo’s life, to whom I referred as “proponents of plug-pulling.” Perhaps I’ll be surprised . . .;
    2) To my knowledge, Rav Shternbuch hasn’t been the Rosh Yeshiva in Rosh Ha’ayin in decades. He’s the Av Beis Din of the Edah HaChareidis in Yerusholayim; 3) I enjoy your comic strip. Keep up the good work.

  5. dilbert says:

    Rav Moshe Sternbuch is identified as a Rosh Yeshiva in his article, published in the book Pathways In Medicine A journal of Topics in Medicine in the Spirit of Halacha and Jewish Thought, Laniado Hospital, Kiryat Sanz, Netanya, Israel. Translated and arranged by Paltiel Roodyn. Published by Feldheim Publishers, and targum Press.

    The article is and extract from an article printed in “pathways in Medicine” 6 Elul 5744-Septl 1984.

    I believe I have abstracted the pertinent details in my blog post, but certainly the entire article is available. I would be interested in your thoughts.

    I am glad you enjoy the comic strip.

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