The Orthodox Union isolates the final four

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9 Responses

  1. Steve Brizel says:

    Excellent article! The OU in allowing sych shuls the availability of NCSY and uts varies programs understands that where Jewish adolescents spend most of their time in yeshivos and summer programs that show that one learns in yeshiva has real application to life aee the key as opposed to either OOs halachaless Judaism or where one davens.

  2. Excellent and about time.
    Now, will the OU next turn its attention to congregations that give membership and kibudim to men convicted of paedophilia, spousal assault and theft?

    • Chochom B'mah Nishtaneh says:

      There is no congruence between the two. There is no Orthodox Shul formed for the specific purpose of promoting peadophilia (I can’t speak for OO, though) or spousal abuse ETC. Nor do any proclaim it proudly.

      Nor is there any greater preponderance of any such sins among members at Orthodox shuls than there are in the membership at OO temples

      However the OO temples proudly proclaim their infidelities. And wish Mazel tov to members who proudly proclaim their dismissal of Torah adherence.

    • Bob Miller says:

      If you know of any, tell the OU to investigate. Have you done that yet? If not, why not?

  3. Reb Yid says:

    I have been a member of two of these fine shuls when I resided in their communities.

    These shuls serve a crucial need for open minded halachic Jews who seek an inclusive non judgemental setting. Not surprisingly they continue to thrive and grow. Their Ravs are complete mensches. You can be a Hard right Republican or dress in khakis or send your kid to a Conservative Jewish day school or whatever. Each individual is embraced. Most importantly diversity (as exemplified by its diverse membership) is seen as a blessing which enhances the shul and indeed the practice and observance of Judaism in the community.

    I certainly would not want to be a member of your Orthodox congregation but there are different types of Orthodox shuls that come in all shapes and sizes.

    What does the OU do for shuls anyways? And who indeed are they to decide?

  4. Ralph Suiskind says:

    We are paying for the sins of past generation…. Unfortunately, historically , we had adopted the lifestyle of others, demeaning the importance of women.. Had we truly maintaining our own truly Jewish lifestyle following the patriarch and matriarch example, none of these alien movements would have arisen within our midst.
    Women would have been taught from infancy on practical basic knowledge of Judaism which would have sufficed to engender within all of us – men as well – total Torah/Mesorah observance … The intensive in depth learning required exclusively for men is due to men’s inborn natural weaknesses to waiver as clearly indicated in verses preceding the revelation at Sinai. Whereas the Jewish women are the bulwark of our
    very Jewish existence both spiritually and physically. May our Jewish women continue to provide their families with the commitment to authentic Judaism.

  5. Eric Leibman says:

    I also want to say that I agree with another commentator on this subject that the shuls in question should have been given a much shorter time line for getting their house in order than three years. Say, instead, three months at most. Is the three year figure a reasonable attempt at achdut by the OU, or is it actually a case of the OU kicking the can down the road because they don’t want to have to do something extremely unpleasant here? Prolonging this just gives the shuls in question more time to maneuver and come up with tactics they believe will make it impossible for the OU to follow through at the end of three years. I fear the OU, if not actually attempting to kick the can down the road, at the least has made a potentially fatal error on this particular issue.

  6. Chava Rubin says:

    Question : Will the OU allow synagogues to be OU members if they have a Male Rabbi who was ordained at YCT?

  7. David z says:

    I love the Israel line… rabbi at my schul spoke at a community event for mental health in a building at a reform temple campus which also had a school. The kids were noisy and someone apologized publicly for the noise. The rabbi said he didn’t mind because he always loves the sounds of Jewish playing. One of the reform congregants responded, “But rabbi, most of them aren’t Jewish. “

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