Someone Should Remind the University of California Regents That It’s Purim

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  1. Ralph Kostant says:

    “We completely reject Zionism in all of its forms.” That statement is certainly anti-Zionist, but if it is anti-Semitic, then, chas v’chalila, the Rosh Yeshiva of a leading American yeshiva and a member of the Agudath Israel Council of Torah Sages is an anti-Semite.  To state the obvious, he is not–he overflows with Ahavat Yisroel to a degree that should make aware of our shortcomings. Please note further that this distinguished Chacham Yisroel would tell you that he is specifically condemning only the national self-determination aspirations of Am Yisroel, not the Italians, the Kurds, etc. Professor Volokh is correct. Banning all anti-Zionism threatens legitimate speech. One must try to discern whether the speech or the speaker crosses the line into anti-Semitism, and then condemn the transgression. I say this as a committed Religious Zionist who respectfully and humbly disagrees with the revered Rosh Yeshiva quoted above, on Zionism and other issues as well.

    • Yaakov Menken says:

      While true, this has nothing to do with “Anti-Zionism” as expressed on college campuses. The Satmar Rav said “We Jews have a Torah which forbids us to have a state during the exile, and therefore we may not ask the Americans to support the state. But a non-Jew has no Torah, and by supporting the state he feels he is helping Jews. So, on the contrary, if an American non-Jew is against the Zionist state, it shows he is an anti-Semite.”

      Let us remember that Herzl’s dream was to create a secular state and thus eliminate anti-Semitism. Just yesterday the UNHRC approved maintaining a database of Jewish businesses in Judea and Samaria for the next round of Nazi boycotts.

  2. lacosta says:

    i would like to combine this piece with r menken’s comment elsewhere on c-c:

    The non-Zionist Orthodox are far more concerned about Israel’s security than supposedly Zionist Conservative Jews, because the Orthodox are the ones with close relatives living there.

    —the reality is that the O community , including the haredi community [who number ~100000 ‘war criminals  ie living over the ‘green line’] , will have to come up with a solution of how to manage the whole Land ,which is occupied by hostile arabs.  regardless of ones theology on State/Land etc , there are > 1 milllion occupants who are not citizens , who are managed thru force.    It’s almost 50 yrs , and mashiach hasn’t come.  the settlements were built so as ‘not to ever repartition Palestine’, but alas we have no clue , neither DL nor haredi community , on how to manage this situation of resident aliens , whose land we want and claim our own[in case of DL’s] ,but whom we won’t offer any form of citizenship , and remain a hostile irritant, and a reason for the World to delegitimize out ‘democracy’….  tzarich iyun gadol…

     

  3. Steve Brizel says:

    Take a look at two articles in the latest issue of Commentary Magazine on the increasing threats to free speech on the average college campus. I think that there is more freedom of intellectual expression in any Beis Medrash that is worthy of that term than in the average lecture hall of an American university where students are rarely, if ever exposed to conservative ideas, due to the community of tenured radicals that have taken over American academia since the 1970s.

  4. Sholom says:

    It may appear to you that certain groups are singling out the Jewish state for criticism. But those groups consist of mostly: (a) Palestinians, who are directly or indirectly affected by Israeli policies, (b) American Jews, who feel it’s their duty to speak out against what they see as injustice done on their name, and (c) American citizens who recognize that since what they see as Israeli injustice could not continue without their country’s military and diplomatic support (unlike the other examples you cite), they can actually do something about it.  So it’s unfair for you to argue that these groups who focus their criticisms towards the Jewish state are anti Semitic. 

    • Yaakov Menken says:

      You are assuming these things are either true or justifiable. In reality, the “Israeli policies” about which they complain are the direct result of protecting the innocent against terrorism and terrorist organizations, claims of “injustice” are verifiably false, and American citizens could do far more to affect the human rights situations in places where the human rights violations are gratuitous — e.g. in Saudi Arabia, China, Burundi, Venezuela, and Cuba… all of which are members of the UN’s “Human Rights Council” which attacks Israel instead of dealing with genuine human rights abuses. At their root, the claims against Israel are patently false and unreasonable, and not-at-all-incidentally are used to incite violence against Jews. Whether an individual is anti-Semitic, deluded, misguided or simply stupid, what they support is clearly anti-Semitism, no different than those who supported the Nazis (or Hamas) because they provide(d) social services.

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