It’s All In The Angle

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6 Responses

  1. Kenneth Levy says:

    As a child I would often claim I was unable to do something, only to find the ability to do it later. Many times I heard the phrase “See, you can do it, but only if you really want to.”

    It was true for me then, and it’s true for this situation as well.

    Rabbi Shafran is right, what he described is the proper way from frum yidden to demonstrate-even if you don’t agree with the point of the demonstration. According to his essay, it was done in a menchlech manner, without violence, vandalism or verbal abuse.

    While I certainly applaud this, I can’t help but agree with the criticism/question. If the Rabbonim could control the populace to behave in a respectful manner in this instance, why have they not managed to do so in so many other examples?

    This example of good decorum remains, regrettably, atypical. Until this manner of protest becomes the norm, it will remain a question. A very valid one, in my opinion.

  2. rachel w says:

    Perhaps (we can hope…) this peaceful demonstration will inspire others to see that it can be done.

  3. cvmay says:

    I appreciate the advice to ‘pause, aim again, and look’ from another perspective.
    Much of the hostility, anger and intolerance may be caused by viewing every issue from ONE PERSPECTIVE only, IOW from my angle without shifting the camera lens and capturing the side, rear or slightly to the right/left of front. Thanks for the pointer.

  4. Tal Benschar says:

    If the Rabbonim could control the populace to behave in a respectful manner in this instance, why have they not managed to do so in so many other examples?

    Because those who misbehave are a tiny minority within the minority who have little regard for most of the Rabbonim and consider them sell-outs to Zionists.

  5. L. Oberstein says:

    There is such a divide in Klal Yisroel. I hear that membership is falling in most non frum Temples as the younger generation doesn’t affiliate. There was an article in Hamodia about Rabbi Miller who left Pittsburg to assume a pulpit in Calgary and it said that there is 90% intermarriage there. We who live in our bubble think that the phenomenal growth , miraculous actually, of the frum community is the reality. We may be too oblivious to the carnage elsewhere. This is true in Israel also, but in a different way. The secular Jews speak Hebrew but they are lacking basic Jewish knowledge or involvement. We think the 300,000 man march was a great kiddush Hashem but does it have any influence on making one more Jew respect Torah?
    If the religious Jews in the world would be more willing to interact and befriend non observant Jews, we could do much to turn the tide,at least in some measure.

  6. cvmay says:

    Tal, that is slightly difficult to digest, when a mid size demo against the Karta parking center or Intel erupts into spontaneous violence, name calling and/or property damage. (more than a tiny minority within a minority).
    The Charedei community is divided into subdivisions as we are all aware of. Ihose that vote in elections, send their children to Chinuch Atzmai, Shas or Torani yeshivos and are intertwined to government programs have usually expressed a subdued, peaceful, diplomatic means of demonstration. Others do not, why is that??? The other community does not have representation within government circles and attention garnished from HEAVY DUTY demos may be the only way for their voice to be heard.. The underlying dilemma is, that us insiders can see/understand/discern the difference while the majority of Israeli lump all groups together and see only the DECREASE OF KVOD SHAMAYIM.

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