Notes From the Road

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13 Responses

  1. Joel Rich says:

    “A woman called. Some of her ribs were broken. She wanted to know if she was supposed to be mochel / forgive her husband. I told her definitely not. She persisted – isn’t it a special mitzvah, close to Yom Kippur, a segulah that Hashem should forgive us for all our wrongdoing? It told her that it would be no mitzvah at all.
    I’m guessing there’s more to the story and that R’ SN felt that her not being mochel would have an impact on her husband’s actions. If not I would have guessed she would have been told to leave him? FWIW IIRC the only exception to the forgiveness rule is motzi shem ra (spreading negatively about the individual)

  2. Raymond says:

    So was Rabbi Adlerstein’s visit and interview with that Christian Network broadcast, and if so, will it be available on youTube? I actually have watched such an interview of Rabbi Daniel Lapin on the 700 club which was surreal enough; how much moreso would be such an experience in this case. Maybe all of us reading this can watch it, and then make comments about it on this website. 🙂

  3. Bob Miller says:

    They love us mainly as potential converts. They assume that conversion would improve us.

    • Not in my experience. Chief reason is that they take Bereishis 12:3 quite seriously. They certainly would not mind our conversion, just as we would not mind their dropping the Trinity.

  4. Jonathon Ament says:

    No mention of Mr. Shawarma in Norfolk? We were passing through the area this summer and that place was a life saver. You know that a kosher place is awesome if it is both packed and without any significant discernible presence of observant Jews.

    • I ate there three times. I did find it semi-miraculous that there could be a thriving frum community w/o a pizza shop. Mr.Shawarma has to be part of the reason why this is possible

  5. David Ohsie says:

    WHAT??? The reaction of the Rabbi to the story of the battered woman is completely wrong! A woman calling about a husband who broke her ribs is a safek Pikuach Nefesh at a minimum. He should have immediately left the Talmidim or sent them away and inquired into the woman’s situation. She and her kids could be in danger. Given the question, she could be living under the presumption that halacha requires her to stay in an abusive marriage. She could feel that the doesn’t have the money to leave or won’t get the support of the community or Rabbis around her if she didn’t. For all the Rabbi knows, the women is reaching out in a cry for help looking to see if anyone cares. Simply answering the Shayla and hanging up is a horrific reponse. I’m very surprised and disappointed that Rabbi Sarna would endorse such a reaction and that (with due respect) Rabbi Adlerstein would endorse this as well. [Note: my reaction refers to the endorsement of the story by the two Rabbis. I’m not commenting on the Rabbi quoted in the story since we don’t have direct knowledge of the story.]

    • Since “we don’t have direct knowledge of the story” why would you even entertain the possibility that his reaction was anything but what it undoubtedly was: a follow-up conversation well after the violent incident, which he certainly would have reacted to with primary concern for the safety of the woman and her children? Interesting that in a room full of a few hundred men and women, no one reacted the way you did

  6. contarian says:

    Please view the following video on Torah Anytime. It is an alternative view of the massacre in Pittsburgh
    Your comments

    Toeiva in Pittsburgh

  7. Steve Brizel says:

    Evangelicals should not make any Shomer Torah Umitzvos who is not among the Ketanei Emunah nervous. Their beliefs OTOH make those who are ketanei emunah and many of our brethren who view separation of church and state as an essential element of what it means to be Jewish quite nervous because public expressions of faith, regardless of whether by Evangelicals or by anyone engaged in Kiruv push their emotional buttons and generate a lack of tolerance for someone whose life is motivated and directed by religious belief and practices.

  8. Steve Brizel says:

    One or our neighbors’ parents moved from LI to Norfolk and spent Shabbos at our house for a family simcha. When we met and shmoozed with them, we received a similarly impressive report as R Adlerstein as to the extent of Torah observant life in Norfolk.

  9. DF says:

    Or – having sat many times in R. Shargi Neuberger’s dining room when such calls came in – he may have answered the call strictly on her own words, while knowing full well the story might not be accurate, the caller might not be well, or something completely different. Point is, R. Shragi is a wise man, with much life experience, and knows not to overact as the commenter here would. There are many rabbis who will tell you how much they regret believing such calls (usually, but not always, from women) and getting involved in domestic squabbles, only to find out they had been used, misled, or otherwise made to look foolish.

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