Angels At The Hollywood Bowl

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13 Responses

  1. mb says:

    Now I’m looking forward to movie reviews on CC

  2. Nechama says:

    Beautiful piece, Rabbi Adlerstein. Made me wish I was there.

  3. Reb Yid says:

    The review of the music was interesting.

    But not so this–totally unnecessary and inflammatory:

    I ran into a prominent Conservative rabbi, who seemed to be having a good time, despite the frequent references to outdated notions like Temple offerings which his denomination rejects.

    Enough with these digs. He probably enjoyed the evening for the same reasons you mention regarding how Perlman can make anything “classical”. Who wouldn’t?

    Speaking of which, Perlman himself is certainly not Orthodox, and has been an active member of a Reform congregation in the New York area for many years. He himself would certainly would not subscribe to many of the lyrics in the songs he performed. But just as the review had the good sense to only extol his virtues and not cast aspersions about him, a similar dan lchaf zchut should be extended to all.

  4. Hoffa Fingerbergstein says:

    All I can say is: what a beutiful review of what a beautiful event. I especially appreciate you pointing out how, for most of the attendees, the words and messages of the compositions performed by Chazzan Helfgot and Itzhak Perlman were lost on them. However, you, a frum Yid, appreciated them!

  5. Mitch says:

    I’m not sure what you mean that his denomination rejects. They don’t dispute Temple sacrifices happened in the past; they just are not part of their vision of a Messianic future. Not that different from Maimonides’ take — or Rav Kook’s.

    [YA The lyrics do not reference an oddity of our primitive past, but the hope that the restoration of the Temple order will come speedily in our days. That is what the song says, and that is what authentic Judaism always represented. It is what the Rambam (Melachim 11:1) codified as authentic Jewish thought, and what R Kook certainly believed. (The somewhat obscure references in R Kook to a time in which the animal neshamah will take on a different role, to the extent that animals will be unavailable for korbanos, do not mean that he disputed the restoration of the Temple order. R Kook in those passages refers to a second stage messianic development, but does not deny the first stage. Any other representation is pure obfuscation.]

  6. Sarah Elias says:

    Sorry to nitpick, but Helfgot was wearing a rekel, not a bekeshe. Bekeshes are Shabbos wear.

    [YA – 1) Los Angeles is a very holy place. We expect all visitors to wear bigdei Shabbos, always. (That is to compensate for those in this city who choose not to wear begadim at all.) 2) For a litvak like me, if it is a garment that strikes me as something I would never wear, it is a bekeshe.]

  7. Rafael Guber says:

    Rabbi Adlerstein I would suspect that you are not really a Litvak. Besides your wonderful, warm sense of humor, statistically Lita at its greatest demographic was about 225,000 of us with 1/5 Chassidim anyway. If you want to say you are a lapsed Chassid OK. You have been spotted in Rabbi Wolfs schul as well. By the way, I am joking I know at least five or six Litvaks with a sense of humor. (hmm…maybe 4 or 5)

    Kol Tuv


    [YA – I will prove to you that I am a Litvak. Say something – anything at all – and I will argue the opposite.]

  8. Raymond says:

    I am certainly no expert on such matters, but I seem to recall that one of the most noteworthy, even courageous aspects of the Rambam’s monumental Mishneh Torah, was precisely that he did include the laws of the Temple sacrifices. He considered these laws as important as any of the other commandments in the Torah, thus clearly indicating that he did see Temple sacrifices as part of our Jewish future. So I am not sure how it can fairly be said that the Temple sacrifices are outdated, or that the Rambam rejected their future usefulness.

    As for the concert itself, good music is good music. While classical music of the 18th and 19th centuries, especially in the general vicinity of Germany-Austria, is a major portion of such eternally great music, such music is not exclusively so. I can think of many modern, popular, secular songs which I feel are good enough to be loved even centuries from now (for example, Simon & Garfunkel), and certainly Jewish music deeply touches all of our hearts in a way that even the genius of Mozart cannot reach.

  9. dr. bill says:

    Raymond, the contradictions between mishneh Torah and moreh nevuchin require study. whatsmore, Rambam’s view of yemot hamashiach in general and sacrifices in particular are a tad more nuanced than what is commonly viewed as orthodox dogma. the proper kavanah for tefillot in this area is an important area. i wonder if those tefillot are said in our famous rabbi’s shul? if they are, i assume he provides an allegorical interpretation putting him in allegory squared territory – praying for the return of a korban pesach to commemorate the exodus.

    i prefer we just enjoy the music! but now I wonder what rabbi adlerstien would call my brook’s brothers shabbos rekel.

  10. Hoffa Fingerbergstein says:

    Mitch – look in Siddur Sim Shalom of the Conservative movement. They have removed the words “ishei Yisroel” from the paragraph “retzei” found in the Amidah. This has been the movement’s position for years (I grew up without ishei yisroel and most of the second paragraph of Aleinu, as examples) and they did so because they don’t believe or don’t want the reestablishment of the Beis HaMikdosh, the Third and Final temple.

    Rafael – reminds of the time that a chassid walked into a “litvishe” beis medrosh here in Toronto and announced “boy, is it cold in here!”

  11. mb says:

    Hoffa Fingerbergstein
    ” Beis HaMikdosh, the Third and Final temple.”

    I wish Orthodox Jews would stop repeating this mantra. There’s no source for this anywhere.
    Herod’s Temple was the third. I know of at least 3 times since the destruction in 70 CE that the Jews were offered the opportunity to rebuild. Once they even started.

  12. cvmay says:

    Sounds like a concert and night to remember.
    Two amazing, talented, musical icons together in the city of Holy Angles.
    Glad it was enjoyed and I’m quite sure that many dormant ‘pintela’ neshamas were ignited.

  13. Raymond says:

    I am not sure how the claim can be made that there will be no Third Temple, given that rebuilding it is one of the ways that we will be able to recognize the Real Messiah when he finally comes. We ourselves do not engage in the rebuilding of it, precisely because that is a task given to the Real Messiah.

    And since the Temple will be rebuilt, there will be animal sacrifices done there, simply because it makes no sense to build something and then not use it for what it has traditionally been used for. I realize that the Rambam said that G-d introduced animal sacrifices into our Torah as a way of weaning ourselves from the idolatrous practices of the time, but I am not convinced that our collective psyche has completely liberated itself from that same idolatrous mentality.

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