Massacre of the Innocents

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6 Responses

  1. Bob Miller says:

    The Israeli government should reflect on this atrocity every time it is ordered or tempted by “friendly nations” to release terrorist prisoners or exercise restraint.

  2. Tal Benschar says:

    The Israeli government must take some of the blame. Another similarly savage incident was committed a few years ago by one Samir Kuntar. The Israeli government released him (and hundreds of other murderers) to cheering mobs of Arabs in exchange for two bodies of Israeli soldiers. If the perpetrartor of this latest atrocity is caught, then he can expect the same — a couple of years in jail, and then a release in exchange for some Jewish bodies.

    “All who are made to be compassionate in the place of the cruel
    In the end are made to be cruel in the place of the compassionate.” Qohelet Raba, 7:16

  3. Reb Yid says:

    What happened was horrible.

    But does the immediate response by Bibi’s government, announcing more building in the territories, help matters one iota?


  4. Pinchas Steinberg says:

    Reb Yid,

    You seem to imply that Bibi’s announcement of more building in the territories does not help matters and even makes matters worse. Do you really believe that the cause which drove the terrorist to murder a family and decapitate a 3-month old was anger over “settlement-building?” If not one Jewish soul lived east of the Green Line, would there be no Arab anger or violence? Reb Yid, between 1948 and 1967, when not one Jewish settlement existed, when Judea and Samaria were judenrein, terrorists routinely crossed the border to butcher Jewish families and even Jewish babies. Not only that, but before the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, Arab pogroms were relatively common. In 1929, Arabs massacred 67 Jews in Hebron. Babies were beheaded. Old rabbis were castrated. There were incidents of rape, torture and mutilation. Hands and fingers were torn off bodies, and many Jews were wounded as well. As the Arab masses joyfully carried out their killings in 1929, were they driven by anger over the Israeli settlements of 1967? Anger over the occupation?

    Unfortunately, I believe that even if Bibi were to cease all new settlement building, even if Bibi were to remove every last Jew from east of the Green Line, Arabs would still butcher Jews. And the world would still blame Israel for all violence. Luckily, though, I live in Israel. And I fought in her army. And I fight in her wars. And I vote. Which means that thankfully, my opinion counts, and I will face the consequences of “more building.” And I will encourage more building, not less, because I believe that more building does enhance, and not weaken, my security. And if you don’t live here, frankly, your opinion does not count. And you will not face the consequences of “more building” or “less building.” Yet you criticise.

  5. Ori says:

    Reb Yid: But does the immediate response by Bibi’s government, announcing more building in the territories, help matters one iota?

    Ori: No, it won’t. But considering how little good will the settlement freeze garnered in the PA (see the links in the article), do you really think it will hurt matters one iota? We in the US tend to believe that there is always a solution. But Israel and the Palestinians have mutually exclusive non-negotiables, peace is not going to happen in this generation.

  6. Yehoshua Friedman says:

    If there is any solution, it is teshuva. An Israeli president or prime minister who appears in tallis and tefillin in public and announces that the full physical and spiritual force of Israel will be set against terror, will find the other side abandoning jihad against Israel. The Muslims themselves say jihad is a response to the non-fulfilment of the Torah by the Jews. If the Jews reject their chosenness, the Muslims seek to take over the land.

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