Hardened Criminals and Newborn Babes

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7 Responses

  1. Ori says:

    Should Hebrew speaking secular Israelis consider their society “Jewish”, or something else, such as “Israeli”?

  2. BobF says:

    Its totally wrong to even compare, even just by implication a mass murderer like Taylor and theseRussians who who moved to Israel and served int he army in many cases, which certainly shows there commitment to the Jewish people/

  3. Chaim wolfson says:

    Only in the world of political talking points, whose residents make a living from taking statements out of context, can the fact that Rabbi Shafran referred to Charles Taylor and Russian immigrants in the same post be in any way construed as comparing the two. Especially when the paragraph you seem to take exception to begins with the words, “The converse” and refers to “upstanding citizens.” In any case, “a commitment to the Jewish people” does not equal “a commitment to live a Jewish life.”

  4. Yehoshua Friedman says:

    It is interesting to juxtapose the Jewish aggada about Nero running away and converting with the Roman story of Nero fiddling while Rome burned. Perhaps Nero was perceived as having developed a Jewish sympathy and this was said against him. It is also midda keneged midda — Jerusalem burning and Rome burning. Anyone have light to shed?

  5. Yehoshua Friedman says:

    Apparently Nero and Nevuzaradan behaved as proper Jews after conversion OR the retroactive revocation of a conversion was not accepted by the sages of that time.

  6. Raymond says:

    The only ones who have the moral right to forgive a murderer are the victims of his murders themselves.

  7. One Christian's Perspective says:

    “The only ones who have the moral right to forgive a murderer are the victims of his murders themselves.” – Comment by Raymond —

    I am trying to understand how this works. It would seem that under these circumstances, no one is able to forgive. Is a victim only the one who is killed ? Are not others severely impacted by this death/injury and as such are they not also a victim/captive of this immoral act ? Forgiveness sets the captive free. It is not cheap grace. It is always a painful process where every aspect of the pain is experienced afresh but it doesn’t end there. The process brings us to a place where we can look at those who have hurt us and separate the act from the person and say I forgive you. And truly as Joseph expressed it “what you did for evil, God used for good”. True forgiveness never operates outside of the love of God walking us through the process into His light. It is the miracle of love -Divine love – that can break the cycle of anger and bitterness and bring healing to those in pain and suffering. Unresolved anger leads to bitterness and hatred and destroys those it enslaves. Being willing to give up your right to be angry and “righteous in your anger” allows for an even greater miracle to take place in your heart – God himself removes the pain, the stain and the shame. In other words, He uses it for your good. The person who is forgiven no longer has the power to hurt you. They may be left off of your hook so to speak but they will still be accountable to God for their actions against you. God himself carries the pain that you tried to carry and could not. Joseph forgave his family and saved a nation.

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