Ed Koch and the Unanswered Question

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8 Responses

  1. Abe says:

    He may not have been observant, but he knew that he was a part of the Jewish People and nation. How much better off we would be if every Jew at least realized and felt that.

  2. mb says:


    Abe
    February 5, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    He may not have been observant, but he knew that he was a part of the Jewish People and nation. How much better off we would be if every Jew at least realized and felt that.”

    Including those that are observant!

  3. Daniel Shain says:

    “Dr. Pearl has his answer; I have mine. We are both uncomfortable with each other’s answers. The question remains perhaps the most important one that any Jew can ask.”

    I would love to hear/read more about Dr. Pearl’s and Rabbi YA’s answers to this question.

    [YA – See if you can get him to agree to a public discussion of the question 🙂 ]

  4. DF says:

    I dont know why Dr. Pearl was puzzled by Koch’s essay on what being Jewish meant to him. Koch was a non-observant Jew who was born in the 1920s. For members of that demographic, one’s Judaism was expressed in one of two ways: Either by supporting Israel, or, more often, in opposing the enemy. For that demographic, the “enemy” was often Christianity. (This latter attitude is rapidly vanishing, thankfully, and in many cases has disappeared entirely.) For us living in the 2010s, and especially for us orthodox Jews, we find that strange. We have so much to celebrate from a positive persepctive; why focus on the negative? But Koch reflected his peers and his times. Yes – for him, being Jewish was mainly about NOT being something else.

    That said, seeing his tombstone – which does not reflect the above attitude – fills me with Jewish pride. YZB.

  5. MenachemG says:

    There is something flawed about the Jewish pride of someone who refuses to be buried in a Jewish cemetery; there is something flawed about the Jewish comprehension of someone who proclaims Shema Yisrael in Trinity Cemetery.

  6. Raymond says:

    For me, Ed Koch is somewhat of a paradox. On the one hand, he was proudly Jewish and unabashedly pro-Israel, and yet he had only contempt for such leading pro-Israel political leaders as Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani, while supporting Barack Obama for President not just once, but twice. Overall, though, my understanding is that he was a very successful Mayor of New York, which is no small accomplishment in itself.

    As to the question of what the continued value of being Jewish is, I seem to recall that somewhere in our Haggadah, it makes the observation that we must receive the Torah in each generation, all over again. A secular, political example of this is the sad fact that the lesson that America seemed to learn well when it replaced the disastrous Jimmy Carter with Ronald Reagan, must now be learned all over again. If we as Americans do not replace the current occupant in our White House with an even more strident version of Ronald Reagan less than four years from now, this nation will probably cease to exist in any meaningful way.

    How much moreso does is this principle true when applied to the more eternal values that our Judaism provides our world. When put in gentile or secular Jewish hands, our Torah has been distorted almost beyond recognition. We need our Torah leaders, to keep things honest, so that no matter how far society’s values stray from G-d’s course, that we Jews always bring it back to its proper dimensions.

  7. Eddie Sherman says:

    Ed Koch was a great mayor who was colorful, opinionated, brash, etc – all the adjectives. However, his choice of a burial plot is beyond belief. How a proud Jew does not want to be buried in a Jewish cemetery is beyond me.

    Furthermore, Koch even after he was no longer Mayor, attended “religiously” year in and year out the midnight mass at St. Patrick’s Cathedral on the eve of December 25. He even had a permanently designated seat. Did he have a permanent seat at Temple Emanuel or Park East Synagogue? Did he attend services at least as many times as he visited St. Patrick’s Cathedral?

    Finally, I remember watching the news after Yom Kippur ended where they showed Mayor Koch’s activities and duties during the day. Attending a synagogue service was not one of them. Invoking the words of Daniel Pearl, hy”d, who truly died “Al Kiddush Hashem” is a mockery and insult to him and all Jews.

    There are thousands of Jews who lived similar lives as Koch – cultural, ethnic whatever you call it. However, they insisted in being buried in a Jewish cemetary.

    Supporting Israel is wonderful but not enough – Evangelical Christians also support Israel with greater passion and fervor.

    Great Mayor – absolutley. Proud Jew – give me a break.

  8. Matthew Wolsk says:

    I see we have a couple of “Jewish grinches” here. Instead of looking at what Koch did do, they focus on what he didn’t do. Yes he should have had himself buried in a Jewish cemetary. WHy he didn’t only he and G-D knows. But how can you not be struck by the utter kiddush Hashem he made in his dying day. The fact that he died on the same day as Daniel Pearl should make everyone’s hair stand on end and give goose pimples to the coldest and closest of hearts.

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