The Hidden Tragedy of the Hostage Exchange

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6 Responses

  1. ClooJew says:

    This disconnect between the rabbonim and the Knesset traces its roots, lulei demistafina, to your previous post about Rabbiner Hirsch. The absence of Hirschian TIDE in the Holy Land means there is no bridge between the two worlds.

  2. Ori says:

    Israeli culture seems to suffer from a bias towards the short term. Olmert seems to be really bad about it.

    BTW, click here to read about reprisals and the laws of war from the perspective of a former lawyer and military officer.

  3. L Oberstein says:

    Maybe the tragedy in Jerusalem today can get us to see the mess we are in. As Thomas Paine said, I think, “Either we will hang together or we will hang separately”.
    What in the world is Israel supposed to do with all these Arabs? This time, it was a legal worker with permission to use the heavy equiptment. What choices does Israel really have?
    I know it is more fun to debate ourselves about narishkeit but Israel faces an existential challenge. If only we had a clue what to do.

  4. Binyomin Eckstein says:

    זוהר – רעיא מהימנא כרך ג (במדבר) פרשת נשא דף קכה עמוד ב

    ואתהדרו אינון ערב רב רעיין על ישראל עאנא דקודשא בריך הוא דאתמר בהו (יחזקאל לד) ואתן צאני צאן מרעיתי אדם אתם ולית לון יכולת למעבד טיבו עם ת”ח, ואנשי חיל ויראי חטא מסובבים מעיר לעיר ולא יחוננו ומחרימין ערב רב בינייהו ולא יהבין לון באתרין סגיאין אלא דבר קצוב דלא יהא תקומה לנפילו דלהון ואפילו חיי שעה וכל חכמים ואנשי חיל ויראי חטא בצערא בדוחקא ביגונא חשיבין ככלבים (איכה ד) בנים המסולאים בפז איכה נחשבו לנבלי חרש בראש כל חוצות, דלא אשכחו אכסניא בינייהו ואינון ערב רב אינון עתירין בשלוה בחדווא בלא צערא בלא יגונא כלל גזלנין מארי שוחד דאינון דיינין רישי עמא (בראשית ו) כי מלאה הארץ חמס

  5. LOberstein says:

    Now, I read in the Baltimore Sun that the Arab who went beserk yesterday had been fined $ 50,000 for building without a permit. Israel cannot permanently restrict Arab building in East Jerusalem . These people are Israelis on the one hand but enemies on the other. It is a real problem what to do with them.
    Israel views itself as above and beyond moral by exchanging live murderers for body parts of long dead soldiers. The rest of the world reads that a man couldn’t legally add to his home and was at the same time being hired to build for the Jews. It isn’t hard to see how he snaped. Israel has to find some way out of this dead end street.

  6. Exchange of Prisoners – An Absurd Imbalance says:

    Exchange of Prisoners – An Absurd Imbalance

    Israel is giving up five prisoners including Samir Kuntar, the convicted Lebanese terrorist who received a sentence of 542 years in prison for his infamous role in the 1979 infiltration into the quiet coastal town of Nahariya where he butchered a young Israeli father, Danny Haran, in front of his four-year-old daughter, then smashed her skull against a rock with his rifle butt, killing her too. Tragically, her two-year-old sister was accidentally smothered to death while her mother tried to keep her quiet so that Kuntar would not discover them. Kuntar has now claimed that on his release he would return to terrorism.

    The only problem is we are now given to understand by Israel’s intelligence services that the two kidnapped Israeli soldiers, Regev and Goldwasser, who are the subject of the exchange, are no longer alive, whether because of their possibly serious wounds at the time of their abduction or because of torture or intentionally deficient medical care by Hezbollah. (Hezbollah has always refused all contact and any information about the two Israelis – apparently, giving comfort or closure to the families concerned is not a pressing priority for Hezbollah.)

    The exchange would make both pragmatic, political and moral sense if the Israelis were to ensure that their prisoners were transferred to Hezbollah in the same state and condition as the two Israelis being received. A body for a body, a corpse for a corpse. Perhaps then in future these terrorist regimes might be better tempted to follow the Geneva Convention and take the most rudimentary care of their prisoners.

    http://SamirKuntar.net

    According to an Israeli 1979 Newspaper:

    According to Smadar Haran, her last memories of Danny and Einat, that day, were when they were being led away at gun point by Kuntar. She could hear from her closet space Danny telling Einat, “Don’t be scared, my baby, it will be alright” and Einat replied to him in her little voice, “Dad, where is Mommy? I want Mommy.” Smadar’s last memory of her 2-year-old daughter, Yael, was when her little daughter was taken to the apartment hiding space. Right before Yael had her mouth covered by her mother, she asked her mother “Where is my little pacifier.” There was no time to search for the pacifier. Minutes later Smadar covered Yael’s mouth to keep her from revealing the hiding space. Smadar soon felt her daughter’s tiny tongue licks and lip sucking on the palm of her hand. She didn’t know what to make of it at first but hours later was told by doctors and paramedics that the reason Yael was licking her palm while she covered her mouth was because she was gasping for air.

    After drowning Danny in the sea in front of little Einat, Kuntar, the brave Lebanese freedom fighter, then turned his attention towards the frightened little 4-year old. He took his rifle and then swung it across the little toddler’s head, knocking her to the ground. As little Einat was knocked to the ground, she was screaming and crying hysterically “mommy daddy help me,” while thrashing her little legs around in the sand. But unfortunately Einat was alone, and no one was there to save her. Kuntar then dragged the little toddler a couple of feet to the closest rock he could find, this was while she was begging him not to hurt her. Kuntar, then laid her head down on a rock, with the intention of crushing it with the butt of his rifle. Einat, instinctively covered her head with her little arms, Kuntar struggled with the little toddler until he finally managed to clear her arms out of the way so that he could aim for her head. Once her arms were out of the way, Kuntar proceeded on beating her on the head over and over with the butt of his rifle, and repeatedly stomping on her little body as hard as he could as well, until blood rushed out of her ears and mouth, and her little cries faded away as she was knocked into unconsciousness. Then, to ensure she was dead, Kuntar continued on beating her over the head, as hard as he could, several more times until her skull was crushed and she was dead.

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