Seinfeld at the Kotel

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7 Responses

  1. Mark says:

    “It doesn’t always take so much to burst negative stereotypes.”

    You’re right. The question is how long the positive effect lasts. Mark my words – you will not find these stories posted in Dovbear, Harry M., Failed Messiah or any of the other Hareidi-“loving” blogs.

    When it’s all said and done, we have to behave properly because it’s the right thing to do, not in order to burst negative stereotypes. The amound of “tov” that emanates from our community far outweighs the “rah” but that has never stopped those bent on ignoring the “Tov” and I suspect it’ll take more than a few more good stories to accomplish that/

  2. Harry Maryles says:

    “Dog bites man is not news,” so often the good stuff goes unreported

    Truly heartwarming are these two stories. But as you indicated, the only thing that makes the news is the the ‘man bites dog’ stories. Isn’t it sad though that these stories are in fact newsworthy rather than the stuff of every day fare?

  3. Jewish Observer says:

    “It doesn’t always take so much to burst negative stereotypes”

    – the best way is to not be guilty of those things that cause the stereotype in the first place

  4. Ori says:

    Jewish Observer: the best way is to not be guilty of those things that cause the stereotype in the first place

    Ori: You’re right, but stereotypes apply to groups. If some ex-Israelis in the US are rude, there will be a stereotype that applies to me. I’ll probably have to be extra-polite to burst it – not because I was guilty in the first place, but because somebody else was.

  5. cvmay says:

    5.

    Stereotypes come from a belief system, in other words, “My belief is since chicken tops are costlier, they are tastier and when served shows elegance and refinement of the host”. IS THIS TRUE? It does not matter since it is my belief, and stereotypes originate in our belief systems.

    Belief systems are based on an accumulation of experiences, education, values & cultural norms that an individual is exposed to. Can a belief system be CHANGED? YES, if desired and with much difficulty!!

  6. Ken Applebaum says:

    Acts of Kiddush Hashem are wonderful to discuss and they should be discussed. However, acts of Chillul Hashem should not be covered up where such cover-ups can lead to harm. This causes me to wonder why, to my knowledge, no one from Cross-Currents has weighed in about the problem of child sexual abuse in the Orthodox community which has been in the news of late (such as the Kolko and Mondrovitz cases–by the way mention of these names is clearly not loshon hara).

    Whatever one thinks may be gained by not discussing such issues in terms of trying to maintain or boost our image, that gain is tremendously outweighed by the potential harm that can be caused to our children by our lack of outrage and concern to face a problem that clearly exists. Indeed, this lack of courage to discuss and face a severe problem is likely a Chillul Hashme in and of itself.

  7. Yitzchok Adlerstein says:

    No one from Cross-Currents has weighed in about the problem of child sexual abuse in the Orthodox community

    Comment by Ken Applebaum

    Perhaps no one at CC has any insider information that would it make it worthwhile saying anything! To the best of my knowledge, none of the senior contributors has any relationship with Kolko or Mondrovitz. Is there really a point to any of us officiously repeating platitudes?

    I have heard (and given!) shiurim on the need to go straight to the secular authorities when anyone has information about a predator on the loose. Exploding the myth of an absolute ban on “mesirus” is about the most important contribution that can be made to outing the evildoers. And it has been exploding a-plenty.

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