Saying sorry

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8 Responses

  1. Jewish Observer says:

    Thank you. Accepted.

  2. Steve Brizel says:

    Secular American culture since the late 1960s has lost much in the way of any sense of shame,guilt, sorrow, modesty and propriety in a mad rush to do away with any but the most essential differences between the genders.

  3. Ori Pomerantz says:

    What do differences between genders have to do with a sense of shame, guilt, and sorrow?

  4. Harry Maryles says:

    “Love means never having to say you’re sorry.”

    First let me say that this article is quite profound in its message of the Bein Adam L’Chavero aspect if Teshuva and I fully agree with you. You are a role model of behavior in this regard and I believe that people should know that about you.

    As to the above quote from Professor Erich Segal, I have heard Frum speakers pretty make pretty much the same criticsm of it as you have. But I reject this characterization of his famous line.

    Properly understood, all Prof. Segal was trying to say is that if one truly loves another, one will never do anything that will give his or her loved one cause to apolgize for. It does not mean that saying “I’m sorry” is a bad thing. That quote does not at all say anything like that, I’m sure that Prof. Segal would agree that if one does indeed wrong another human being, then apoplgizing and seeking forgiveness is quite in order and the right thing to do.

    The only criticism one might have with that quote is the unrealistic expectation…that in any truly close realtionship one would never have cause to apologize.

    But in theory never having to say you’re sorry is a good goal. Becuase that means you have never ever done anything that would require an apology.

  5. Steve Brizel says:

    Ori-One can trace the rise of both the sexual revolution and feminism as two of the worst sources of moral and cultural decay. IMO, they go hand in hand.

  6. One Christian's perspective says:

    Ori-One can trace the rise of both the sexual revolution and feminism as two of the worst sources of moral and cultural decay. IMO, they go hand in hand. – Comment by Steve Brizel

    Yet, one wonders how the woman could participate in the revolution without the man and what hopeless place have the women found themselves where they seek to be more like the man just so that they can be seen of value.

    Desperate people need compassion, kindness, and sincere gentle leading by people who love G-d.

  7. Ori Pomerantz says:

    Harry Maryles, never having to say you’re sorry is a good goal in theory, but isn’t it the a very unrealistic goal? We don’t have telepathy to always know what will hurt somebody we love. We don’t have prophecy to know the full consequences of our actions. An unrealistic goal like that seems like a sure path to disappointment and disillusionment.

    Steve Brizel, is this because more children are raised without a father now, or some other reason?

  8. Steve Brizel says:

    Ori-Once upon a time, fathering a child out of wedlock not only was immoral, it was illegal in most parts of the US. Today, one does not see a raised eyebrow as our celebrity driven media reports on such a development almost on a daily basis.

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