Democrats Go European

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  1. Reb Yid says:

    A few more questions:

    Which party’s candidate for the Florida Senate seat said, “If you’re not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin”?

    Which party’s candidate for the Virginia Senate seat has made “macaca” into a household name and cast aspersions upon a reporter who suggested (correctly) that his mother was, in fact, Jewish?

    Which party’s Congressmen have been instrumental in supporting proselytzing efforts against Jews in the Air Force Academy by evangelical Christians?

    And which party has given a free ride to GWB and Iraqgate with no sense of accountability?

  2. Steve Brizel says:

    Unfortunately, in NY, the Republicans failed to offer a serious alternative to either Elliot Spitzer or Hillary Clinton-despite the fact that all polls showed that many Orthodox Jews voted Republican in 2004. It remains to be seen whether Spitzer of Clinton have a strategy of “run right of center, but govern from the left.”

  3. Charles B. Hall says:

    While the labor movement is indeed more isolationist than in the past, it is mostly members of the Republican party that has recently been taking the lead in promoting nativism here in the US. Senator Moynihan, of righteous blessed memory was not “cast off” but retired. His successor, Sen. Hilary Rodham Clinton, has just as strong a pro-Israel record and received the endorsement of the *Jewish Press* among others. The overwhelming majority of Jewish and non-Jewish Democrats at least here in New York support the kind of foreign policy of which Sen. Moynihan would have approved. Meanwhile, outside of New York, the overwhelming majority of elected officials in both parties continue to support Israel.

    And if the Democrats do gain control of the House of Representatives tomorrow, a lot of pro-Israel Jewish Democrats will be chairing important committees. And the support is not just from Jews: Charles Rangel, a non-Jewish Democrat who will chair an important committee, attended both the Agudath Israel of American convention and the Salute to Israel parade. How many Jews attend both? And Nancy Pelosi, also non-Jewish, who would become Speaker, has remained pro-Israel despite having probably the largest number of nutty anti-Zionists leftists in her district than any other in the US.

    I’m not saying that the Republicans are bad for Israel, although there are indeed a few bad apples on that side of the fence as well, and neither the Road Map nor the recent statements of President Bush’s Secretary of State provide total confidence in them doing the right thing. But to extrapolate from a single poll, and unrepresentative internet comments, is unwarranted. And making support for Israel into a partisan issue will not be good for Israel in the long run. This essay invites all pro-Israel voters to support only one party. Suppose that happens. The other party would then become the anti-Israel party, and eventually will come to power. Much better to keep support for Israel bipartisan, and to keep opposition to Israel on the fringe.

  4. mycroft says:

    Jews should not be in the pockets of either the Democratic party or the Republican one. Certainly, a frum blog should not be seen as favoring one party qua party over the other one.

  5. YM says:

    One dimension of this issue that is not discussed above is that there are two distinct Jewish voting blocks – Orthodox and Non. Evidence for this is the recent attempt by George Soros, the Reform Movement and others on the left to create a new organization as an alternative to AIPAC, as well as the number of calls by Jews against a proposal in Congress to limit the ability of the US to fund a Hamas-led PA government. Many “Non” Jews hold opinions on the Israel/Arab conflict similar to non-Jewish leftists, and, has unfortunately been the case throughout Jewish history, may only come to identify with a Jewish position when Anti-Semitism raises its head.

  6. L.Oberstein says:

    Every so often, I am asked how can the orthodox Jews be Republicans, when being a Democrat is an article of faith for most Jews. I explain in two ways, the one you will like and one you will find ofensive. First of all, the positions of the Republicans on school vouchers alone make them a favorite choice. the unquestioning support of Israel is another. But there is a seemier side to the Republican message, a disdain for the poor, a feeling that “if I can make it, then those who don’t are lazy and deserve to be poor”. These Jews delude themselves that the right wing loves them, they will never be members of the Republican country club. The republicans opposed every social welfare change such as social security, child labor laws, ecology. The party is for the richer element and its interests cater to the rich and the intolerant, as shown by their unfair tax cuts while cutting support for vital needs. Then there is the anti-democsratic nature of the “Conservatives Without A Conscience” who own George Bush II and whose hubris got us into an unwinable quagmire in Iraq. The cheir true nature is shown by the fact that rather than raise taxes on the rich to pay for this folly, they keep taxes on the rich low and borrow on the backs of America’s future generations.
    Also, Bush’s support for Israel is directly related to the Christian Right that believes we have to go back to Israel and die at Armegeddon so that the Savior can return. They love us to death.
    True, there are elements of current Democratic Party doctrine that we find offensive, like ” a woman’s right to choose’ and support for gay marriage by some but by no means all Democratic politicians (mostly depending on who lives in their district).
    So, if your guys win tonight, you can prance around deluding yourself by finding common cause with those who really are using gullible Jews. If the Democrats win big, then you can all mourn, but the ruth is that that is where our Jewish values of chesed and love thy neighbor are found. Some of my best friends are Rewpublicans, nebech. As a Jewish fellow said about 2,000 years ago, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do”.

  7. Joe Fisher says:

    Really this is such Republican breast beating, Rabbi Rosenblum.

    It was George Bush who claimed “A Democrat (sic) win means the terrorists win.” That was a week before his party was pummeled into the ground in the elections. Why keep beating this drum?

    The Democratic party, indeed, would also stand up to Iran. Maybe not with the breast-beating Bush treated the world to in Iraq (Bring’em on!), but certainly with more likelihood of real success.

    Bush’s policies, like Rosenblums, which are the same, have failed in Iraq, nearly failed in Afghanistan, failed in North Korea, are failing in Iran, and so on. Bluster is no match for intelligence. It’s just easier.

    Rabbi Rosenblum’s column today reminds me of that Japanese soldier who was found on an island four years after the war ended, still fighting for the emperor!

  8. Reb Yid says:

    The results of this election actually disprove JR’s thesis. The Democrats, if anything, have moved somewhat to the ‘right’ overall. That’s what enabled them to win many of their new Congressional seats.

    And Charles B. Hall is on point–there will now be many longtime pro-Israel Dems who will be in leadership positions.

  9. Raymond says:

    Not only have I never been a Democrat, but never understood why Jews vote Democrat. The matter to me seems so obvious. Compare, for example, the presidencies of Jimmy Carter/Bill Clinton, against the presidencies of Richard Nixon/Ronald Reagan/George Bush. Carter and Clinton were a total disaster for Israel, while Nixon/Reagan/Bush have been wonderful for Israel. The Christian Right is an extension of the historical Puritans, who sought to purify Christianity to bring it closer to the original teachings of the Torah. Is it therefore any wonder that they are Israel’s best friends? Even in England, which is America’s main cultural ancestor, it was the conservative Oliver Cromwell who let the Jews back into England after 400 years; it was the conservatives Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher who were friends of the Jews. The Republicans proudly promote free-market capitalism, which generates economic prosperity, which in turn significantly reduces the chances of the non-Jewish world turning against us in times of an economic downswing. With the notable exceptions of Mel Gibson and Pat Buchanan, virtually all antisemites in America today are on the left, from Cindy Sheehan to Michael Moore to Jesse Jackson to Naom Chomsky to Vanessa Redgrave and so on. Many of the anti-war rallies end up being anti-Israel rallies. The Republicans believe in ridding the world of Islamic terrorists, while the Democrats believe in placating our murderous enemies. It is time for Jews to get used to the reality that the Democratic party ever since George McGovern has become so radicalized that Harry Truman and John F Kennedy would find it difficult to fit into it. Just look at how that party has ostracized Senator Joseph Lieberman.

  1. November 7, 2006

    […] In Jonathan Rosenblum’s post, he quotes extensively from Lanny Davis, who in turn quotes from a series of blogs in an attempt to prove that the Left in this country has gone anti-Semitic. His examples, however, are not good ones. As this post demonstrates, the quotation from Daily Kos was taken badly out of context—it was a sarcastic response to another comment which was roundly condemned as “troll rated.” Similarly, the comment buried in the Huffington Post really isn’t picking on Lieberman for being Jewish, but for being religious. It begins with “Good men, Daniel Webster and Faust would attest, sell their souls to the Devil. Is selling your soul to a god any worse?”—and later adds a swipe at the President: “George Bush thinks he is doing God’s work. Well, so do others.” As for the third blog mentioned, I was unable to find any comment on MoveOn.org containing both “Jewish” and “greedy.” […]

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