How will they label “Basar Lavan?”

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7 Responses

  1. Netanel Livni says:

    it’s interesting to note that it was proposed by a Knesset member from the National Union, a right-wing political party.

    He is a frum Jew and lives in Beit El.

  2. Moshe says:

    I think there is a very good reason for this law. In Israel, there are many people who are ‘masorati’ – they eat kosher, but they are not too strict about their observance (ie as long as it has any hechsher, they will eat it). However, they are very strict to only eat items that have a hechsher. If they see an item that has ‘dairy’ or ‘meat’ marked on it, they will be careful not to mix it with meat or dairy food, respectively. If it is not written on the package, there is a good chance they will miss it and cook milk and meat together.

    I’ll end with a personal anecdote:
    My wife has a baalas t’shuva friend, and she once saw her greasing her meat pan with butter (T’nuva, with the hechsher of the Badatz eidah chareidis). My wife mentioned that the butter was milchig, and she looked at my wife in shock. She thought that the butter was pareve, as there were no markings whatsoever that it was milchig – and it didn’t have ingredients listed on the package. Obviously, most people realize that butter is milchig, but she thought that it was butter flavored margarine or something of the sort, as there were no dairy markings…

  3. mb says:

    I suppose you could bathe Brassica oleracea in milk and still sell it as 100% frozen broccoli, but I don’t think anyone at Green Giant has thought it worth marketing.

    No you couldn’t. FDA labelling laws demand ALL significant ingredients be listed, down to parts per million.( Even when some are combined under the rubric of natural flavourings, if any are significant, the source has to be declared.) Just info, nothing to do with your post.

  4. Yaakov Menken says:

    Moshe, I think it could easily be said that all the ridicule that might emerge from this is in the category of “pesayim yikashlu bam,” fools will stumble in them. And that is obviously all worth it if one woman is prevented from mistaking pareve “butter-flavored” margarine with real butter.

    In other words, touche — for her sake alone the law will help!

    But couldn’t they have made an exception for Coke and Pepsi? 🙂

  5. Toby Katz says:

    I also know someone who served milchig ice cream after a meat meal — having somehow missed what you would think would be the obvious fact that ice cream is milchig. This was after the OU created its OU-D designation but before they started using that D designation for “obviously” milchig foods like butter and milk — not so “obviously,” obviously.

  6. Eliezer Gamerman says:

    “First of all, it is likely to lead to a bit of ridicule, because by law Coke will now need to have a label reassuring you that there is no meat or milk contained therein. ”

    Don’t be so quick to laugh. The kashrus history of Coke includes that fact that it originally contained animal by-products (in addition to that obvious cocaine-thing).

    When Rabbi Geffen, who was the first rabbi to provide a hechsher for Coca Cola, was given the list of ingredients, he discovered that one of them was glycerin made from non-kosher beef tallow. When they changed the fomula to plant-based glycerin, he agreed to give as hechsher.

  7. Stephen B. Rozen says:

    It is interesting to note that during the legislative process, another M.K. proposed that they also list if the product if vegetarian. As we all know, fish is neither meat nor dairy and cheese can also contain animal rennet and still be deemed Kosher — even though there are quite enough vegetarians that might object to actually eating it.

    In any case, the Knesset committee voted against this proposal — deciding to limit this law strictly to meat, milk or neither.

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